does it mean nextjs middleware is unusable?

which ones?

cause the edge runs on the server and if u import client only functions yk that wont work

Um so... Basically what i found is that if you need a auth guard you'll need to use the pages or layout itself

Its not gonna work well with the middleware unfortunately

@Cane di Oropa using middleware as your only layer of defense for auth isn't good practice anyways

reference: https://github.com/vercel/next.js/discussions/63903

reference: https://nextjs.org/docs/pages/building-your-application/rendering/edge-and-nodejs-runtimes

doing auth check at layout is pretty bad because layout could be cache / not guaranteed re-rendered everytime

pages wise, if i have 10, or 20 pages to be protected it's very inconvecient to manage and most critically you might miss out some pages

yep many said that

but im just trying to do a session check on whether user is logged in

not client function, the function exists in nodejs runtime, but edge runtime does not support all of the nodejs runtime

Yes however if you are doing database sessions and using a ORM for example prisma which doesn't directly support Edge w/o Accelerate, then you'll have to do a combination of a DAL(doing a auth guard before accessing data) + a check in layout.

You could do without it but there's going a delay where your layout ends up rendering (most of time but not guaranteed), and THEN you get sent back to the login page. It can be quite jarring.

You can still fetch in middleware, fetch to a backend api which is running the node runetime.

i used to love nextjs, until middleware restrictied to edge runtime which is really unreasonable

yes mate, im creating an api, which is extra effort

nextjs has been restricted to the edge runtime for a longggg time.

They have stated they intend to allow people to opt into the node runtime in middleware at some point, but it wouldnt be available while hosting through vercel.

bro u seems like interested to talk about middleware runtiem in nextjs

if i self hosted nextjs in docker and k8s, what would be the runtime in middleware.ts? should be nodejs?

Thats what your post is about? What else would I discuss? Im just trying to give you relevant information?

Self hosting currently the edge runtime is still the only thing available, but im saying in the future there will be an option to make your middleware the node runtime

got it, i thought if i self hosted the runtime would be different

Nope, limitation of the framework at this time.

Node runtime is too slow to startup and too big. That's why they use edge. Its faster to startup but has less functionality. For a middleware that is running on every single request, node will just slow you down

you could have a layout do the redirecting

you should still have auth on each call that accesses sensitive info anyways so it shouldn't be a security issue

Since I self host on our internal network and its not exposed outside I pretty much do all of my authentication in the middleware, and I do authentication everytime a server action is called. You either can or cant get into a page, and you either can or cant use a server action 🤷‍♂️

having auth/session check on layout is bad

layout not necessary always been rendered

middleware is the best gate to catch request like what you had mentioned..else if implementing check on each page, 3 pages are manageable, what if 20-30 pages? human might miss out

currently im doing the session check in this way
user visit page on brower -> trigger middleware -> middleware calls route handler -> route handler redirect -> browser redirect

if you are using a api route, you can user a higher up function

Like

you can define a function AuthMiddleware, and use it in route.ts, and it can execute it once it has verified the auth

thats the most weird thing about nextjs, forced to use edge in middleware.

But for me, I use edge in my entire app, so not a problem with me :)

you are lucky 😦

may i know how much u paying for hosting on vercel monthly?

I don't use vercel

oh?..

u self hosting?

no

Cf pages

i see

For vercel, I'll have to pay $20/month initially, and I only get about 1-10K visits/month, so not worth it

For large platforms its worth it

cf has many freebies, do u host for free there

Yes

It has 100K reqs free per day

i dont trust vercel

After that, just a $5/month plan + usage

Lets continue the convo @ #off-topic

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